{"id":108513,"date":"2025-02-18T12:59:30","date_gmt":"2025-02-18T20:59:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/02\/18\/on-lawnext-upsolves-jonathan-petts-and-ben-jackson-on-building-the-turbotax-for-bankruptcy-and-fighting-upl-restrictions\/"},"modified":"2025-02-18T12:59:30","modified_gmt":"2025-02-18T20:59:30","slug":"on-lawnext-upsolves-jonathan-petts-and-ben-jackson-on-building-the-turbotax-for-bankruptcy-and-fighting-upl-restrictions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/02\/18\/on-lawnext-upsolves-jonathan-petts-and-ben-jackson-on-building-the-turbotax-for-bankruptcy-and-fighting-upl-restrictions\/","title":{"rendered":"On LawNext: Upsolve\u2019s Jonathan Petts and Ben Jackson on Building the TurboTax for Bankruptcy and Fighting UPL Restrictions"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When former Wall Street lawyer\u00a0Jonathan Petts\u00a0joined forces in 2016 with\u00a0Rohan Pavuluri, then a research assistant in Harvard Law School\u2019s Access to Justice Lab, and\u00a0Mark Hansen, a software engineer, to create Upsolve, they had a simple but powerful vision: make bankruptcy filing as accessible as online tax preparation for Americans crushed by debt. Today, their nonprofit [\u2026]<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">When former Wall Street lawyer\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jonathanpetts\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Jonathan Petts<\/a>\u00a0joined forces in 2016 with\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/rohan-pavuluri-48811046\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Rohan Pavuluri<\/a>, then a research assistant in Harvard Law School\u2019s Access to Justice Lab, and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/markdghansen\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Hansen<\/a>, a software engineer, to create Upsolve, they had a simple but powerful vision: make bankruptcy filing as accessible as online tax preparation for Americans crushed by debt.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">Today, their nonprofit has helped over 16,000 low-income families discharge more than $700 million in debt through Chapter 7 bankruptcy \u2013 all at no cost to users.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\">In this episode of LawNext, host Bob Ambrogi is joined by Petts, now Upsolve\u2019s CEO, and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/ben-jackson-64397147\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ben Jackson<\/a>, an ex-Uber driver who joined Upsolve\u2019s founding team after his first year of law school and who is now chief product officer. 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