{"id":110528,"date":"2025-03-14T14:51:04","date_gmt":"2025-03-14T22:51:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/03\/14\/sxsw-and-the-power-of-storytelling-in-persuasion\/"},"modified":"2025-03-14T14:51:04","modified_gmt":"2025-03-14T22:51:04","slug":"sxsw-and-the-power-of-storytelling-in-persuasion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/03\/14\/sxsw-and-the-power-of-storytelling-in-persuasion\/","title":{"rendered":"SXSW And The Power Of Storytelling In Persuasion"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1152654\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1152654\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/03\/SXSW-GettyImages-2201521857-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" title=\"\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Photo Illustration by Thomas Fuller\/SOPA Images\/LightRocket via Getty Images)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">SXSW is not only about technology but <\/span><span class=\"s4\">it\u2019s <\/span><span class=\"s4\">also about film<\/span><span class=\"s4\">making<\/span><span class=\"s4\">, storytelling, and marketing. <\/span><span class=\"s4\">Multiple <\/span><span class=\"s4\">panel discussions explore <\/span><span class=\"s4\">how to craft compelling narratives and connect with an audience. One panel <\/span><span class=\"s4\">I attend<\/span><span class=\"s4\">ed <\/span><span class=\"s4\">focused on techniques from live theater that <\/span><span class=\"s4\">can <\/span><span class=\"s4\">create deeper audience engagement. Another explored how data- and AI-personalize<\/span><span class=\"s4\">d<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> marketing <\/span><span class=\"s4\">can <\/span><span class=\"s4\">build stronger customer connections.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Both discussions centered on persuasion in the digital age, where audiences have clear expectations about storytelling, the tools used to tell stories, and how people should be reached. These topics are particularly relevant to me as a former trial lawyer and a faculty member<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> who helps<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> teach lawyers how to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">best <\/span><span class=\"s4\">integrate technology in the courtroom.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong><span>Performance and Technology<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">The first panel<\/span> <span class=\"s4\">was <\/span><span class=\"s4\">entitled <\/span><span class=\"s5\">Performance and Technology: Changing the Audience Experience<\/span><span class=\"s4\">, <\/span><span class=\"s4\">and <\/span><span class=\"s4\">was led by <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bobbymcelver.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"s6\">Bobby McElver<\/span><\/a><span class=\"s4\">, a sound designer from UCSD, and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.andrewjs.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"s6\">Andrew Schneider<\/span><\/a><span class=\"s4\">, an artist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">McElver and Schneider shared two key insights that apply directly to what lawyers do<\/span><span class=\"s4\">: <\/span><span class=\"s4\">persuade people, whether in the courtroom or elsewhere.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong><span class=\"s2\">Start with the Story, Not Technology<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">McElver emphasized that artists should never begin <\/span><span class=\"s4\">by selecting <\/span><span class=\"s4\">technology, even though audiences expect it<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> to be used<\/span><span class=\"s4\">. Instead, they should start with the story they want to tell and <\/span><span class=\"s4\">then<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> use technology t<\/span><span class=\"s4\">o<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> enhance that story. As McElver put it, \u201cIf the tech doesn\u2019t enhance the story, we use something else.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">I emphasize this same point in my trial persuasion technology course: if lawyers don\u2019t start with the story they need to tell, <\/span><span class=\"s4\">no <\/span><span class=\"s4\">technology w<\/span><span class=\"s4\">ill <\/span><span class=\"s4\">make <\/span><span class=\"s4\">the story<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> resonate. Too often, <\/span><span class=\"s4\">lawyers not <\/span><span class=\"s4\">experienced <\/span><span class=\"s4\">with technology <\/span><span class=\"s4\">try to force <\/span><span class=\"s4\">the <\/span><span class=\"s4\">technology into a case rather than letting the story drive the choice of tools.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong><span>Engagement Over Explanation<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span>The second key point was even more interesting. McElver and Schneider stressed that a good story doesn\u2019t just tell people something \u2014 it immerses them in an experience they wouldn\u2019t otherwise have. As Schneider put it, \u201cThere\u2019s a difference between telling someone something and putting someone through something.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">To illustrate this, Schneider shared an example. He had to convince a well-known museum\u2019s artistic board to approve an unconventional idea: hiring actors to put on an unannounced performance outside the museum. His pitch was that people would be drawn to what appeared to be everyday individuals engaging <\/span><span class=\"s4\">what appeared to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">intriguing activities \u2014 without knowing the<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> individuals<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> were performers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">He had planned to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">outline the idea in<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> a presentation on his computer, but when he began, his computer appeared to crash. In a moment of \u201cpanic,\u201d he suggested that the board members <\/span><span class=\"s4\">go <\/span><span class=\"s4\">look out the window <\/span><span class=\"s4\">to get an idea how <\/span><span class=\"s4\">observ<\/span><span class=\"s4\">ing<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> people strolling the museum grounds<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> would be interesting<\/span><span class=\"s4\">. The<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> board members<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> noticed <\/span><span class=\"s4\">things like two <\/span><span class=\"s4\">individuals walking in near-perfect sync, pausing simultaneously to check their phones. They saw groups talking in earnest and others engaged in seemingly random, yet captivating, activities<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> along with other interesting <\/span><span class=\"s4\">interactions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Then Schneider revealed <\/span><span class=\"s4\">to us <\/span><span class=\"s4\">the twist: his computer had not actually crashed. The people outside were actors he had hired in advance to demonstrate his concept in real-time. <\/span><span class=\"s4\">Guess what: t<\/span><span class=\"s4\">he board <\/span><span class=\"s4\">enthusiastically <\/span><span class=\"s4\">embraced his idea<\/span><span class=\"s4\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">His point was clear \u2014 he <\/span><span class=\"s4\">let <\/span><span class=\"s4\">his audience <\/span><span class=\"s4\">experience <\/span><span class=\"s4\">the power of his proposal rather than just explaining it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Lawyers should take note. Persuasion isn\u2019t just about presenting information \u2014 it\u2019s about engaging the audience in a way that makes them feel the argument, not just hear it. Whether addressing a judge, jury, client, or opposing counsel, we <\/span><span class=\"s4\">need to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">focus on<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> getting people to feel they are part of an <\/span><span class=\"s4\">experience<\/span> <span class=\"s4\">that make<\/span><span class=\"s4\">s<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> our case compelling and personal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong><span class=\"s2\">Personalizing t<\/span><span class=\"s2\">he <\/span><span class=\"s2\">Approach<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">The second panel I attended explored how major companies \u2014 Samsung, Lyft, U.S. Bank, and Billboard \u2014 are using data and AI to customize marketing, creating more relevant and personal experiences <\/span><span class=\"s4\">for consumers. The goal is simple: different people respond to different approaches, and technology helps tailor messaging to individual preferences.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">McElver and Schneider hinted at a similar idea: what engages one audience in a play won\u2019t necessarily work for another. The same principle applies to persuasion in law.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">What\u2019s the so what?<\/span> <span class=\"s4\">There is no one-size-fits-all argument. Lawyers trying to persuade a jury must recognize that different arguments resonate with different people in different ways. A strong case isn\u2019t just about what you say but how you say it<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> in <\/span><span class=\"s4\">different ways <\/span><span class=\"s4\">that resonate <\/span><span class=\"s4\">with different people<\/span><span class=\"s4\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Secondly, l<\/span><span class=\"s4\">awyers should use data and AI to understand their audience better. Historically, <\/span><span class=\"s4\">lawyers have<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> relied on gut instinct to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">understand their audience and tailor their arguments<\/span><span class=\"s4\">. But today, technology can provide insights into jurors, clients, and decision-makers. AI-driven analytics can help predict which arguments will be most effective with different people, much like businesses use AI to personalize marketing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong><span class=\"s2\">One <\/span><span class=\"s2\">More <\/span><span class=\"s2\">Thing<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">As I was wrapping up this article, I had the opportunity to attend a SXSW session featuring <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eddy_Cue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"s6\">Eddy Cue<\/span><\/a><span class=\"s4\">, Apple VP, and <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;opi=89978449&amp;url=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ben_Stiller&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjfnpnxzv2LAxU07ckDHdOUKi8QFnoECHAQAQ&amp;usg=AOvVaw20wQKnGltqKxYO2PXhJ2Ge\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"s6\">Ben Stiller<\/span><\/a><span class=\"s4\">, producer of the hit show Severance. Both shared <\/span><span class=\"s4\">thoughts<\/span><span class=\"s4\"> that <\/span><span class=\"s4\">simplify <\/span><span class=\"s4\">the ke<\/span><span class=\"s4\">y to <\/span><span class=\"s4\">effective storytelling and <\/span><span class=\"s4\">persuasion. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Stiller put it <\/span><span class=\"s4\">this way<\/span><span class=\"s4\">: \u201cIf you want to tell a good story, you need to establish an emotional connection between the characters and the audience.\u201d Cue added, \u201cOne reason Severance is so popular is that the audience has an emotional investment in the story. It\u2019s personal.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">This<\/span><span class=\"s4\">\u00a0may be the most critical lesson from the panels I attended: persuasion, whether in storytelling, marketing, or law, is about forging an emotional connection.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><span class=\"s4\">Make it personal.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\">\n<p><em><strong>Stephen Embry is a lawyer, speaker, blogger and writer. He publishes\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.techlawcrossroads.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">TechLaw Crossroads<\/a>, a blog devoted to the examination of the tension between technology, the law, and the practice of law<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/03\/sxsw-and-the-power-of-storytelling-in-persuasion\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">SXSW And The Power Of Storytelling In Persuasion<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Above the Law<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1152654\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1152654\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1152654\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2025\/03\/SXSW-GettyImages-2201521857-300x200.jpg?resize=300%2C200&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" title=\"\"><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-1152654\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">(Photo Illustration by Thomas Fuller\/SOPA Images\/LightRocket via Getty Images)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"s3\">SXSW is not only about technology but it\u2019s also about filmmaking, storytelling, and marketing. Multiple panel discussions explore how to craft compelling narratives and connect with an audience. One panel I attended focused on techniques from live theater that can create deeper audience engagement. Another explored how data- and AI-personalized marketing can build stronger customer connections.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Both discussions centered on persuasion in the digital age, where audiences have clear expectations about storytelling, the tools used to tell stories, and how people should be reached. These topics are particularly relevant to me as a former trial lawyer and a faculty member who helps teach lawyers how to best integrate technology in the courtroom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong>Performance and Technology<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">The first panel was entitled Performance and Technology: Changing the Audience Experience, and was led by <a href=\"https:\/\/bobbymcelver.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Bobby McElver<\/a>, a sound designer from UCSD, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.andrewjs.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Andrew Schneider<\/a>, an artist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">McElver and Schneider shared two key insights that apply directly to what lawyers do: persuade people, whether in the courtroom or elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong>Start with the Story, Not Technology<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">McElver emphasized that artists should never begin by selecting technology, even though audiences expect it to be used. Instead, they should start with the story they want to tell and then use technology to enhance that story. As McElver put it, \u201cIf the tech doesn\u2019t enhance the story, we use something else.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">I emphasize this same point in my trial persuasion technology course: if lawyers don\u2019t start with the story they need to tell, no technology will make the story resonate. Too often, lawyers not experienced with technology try to force the technology into a case rather than letting the story drive the choice of tools.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong>Engagement Over Explanation<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">The second key point was even more interesting. McElver and Schneider stressed that a good story doesn\u2019t just tell people something \u2014 it immerses them in an experience they wouldn\u2019t otherwise have. As Schneider put it, \u201cThere\u2019s a difference between telling someone something and putting someone through something.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">To illustrate this, Schneider shared an example. He had to convince a well-known museum\u2019s artistic board to approve an unconventional idea: hiring actors to put on an unannounced performance outside the museum. His pitch was that people would be drawn to what appeared to be everyday individuals engaging what appeared to intriguing activities \u2014 without knowing the individuals were performers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">He had planned to outline the idea in a presentation on his computer, but when he began, his computer appeared to crash. In a moment of \u201cpanic,\u201d he suggested that the board members go look out the window to get an idea how observing people strolling the museum grounds would be interesting. The board members noticed things like two individuals walking in near-perfect sync, pausing simultaneously to check their phones. They saw groups talking in earnest and others engaged in seemingly random, yet captivating, activities along with other interesting interactions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Then Schneider revealed to us the twist: his computer had not actually crashed. The people outside were actors he had hired in advance to demonstrate his concept in real-time. Guess what: the board enthusiastically embraced his idea.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">His point was clear \u2014 he let his audience experience the power of his proposal rather than just explaining it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Lawyers should take note. Persuasion isn\u2019t just about presenting information \u2014 it\u2019s about engaging the audience in a way that makes them feel the argument, not just hear it. Whether addressing a judge, jury, client, or opposing counsel, we need to focus on getting people to feel they are part of an experience that makes our case compelling and personal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong>Personalizing the Approach<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">The second panel I attended explored how major companies \u2014 Samsung, Lyft, U.S. Bank, and Billboard \u2014 are using data and AI to customize marketing, creating more relevant and personal experiences for consumers. The goal is simple: different people respond to different approaches, and technology helps tailor messaging to individual preferences.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">McElver and Schneider hinted at a similar idea: what engages one audience in a play won\u2019t necessarily work for another. The same principle applies to persuasion in law.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">What\u2019s the so what? There is no one-size-fits-all argument. Lawyers trying to persuade a jury must recognize that different arguments resonate with different people in different ways. A strong case isn\u2019t just about what you say but how you say it in different ways that resonate with different people.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Secondly, lawyers should use data and AI to understand their audience better. Historically, lawyers have relied on gut instinct to understand their audience and tailor their arguments. But today, technology can provide insights into jurors, clients, and decision-makers. AI-driven analytics can help predict which arguments will be most effective with different people, much like businesses use AI to personalize marketing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\"><strong>One More Thing<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">As I was wrapping up this article, I had the opportunity to attend a SXSW session featuring <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Eddy_Cue\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Eddy Cue<\/a>, Apple VP, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;rct=j&amp;opi=89978449&amp;url=https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ben_Stiller&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjfnpnxzv2LAxU07ckDHdOUKi8QFnoECHAQAQ&amp;usg=AOvVaw20wQKnGltqKxYO2PXhJ2Ge\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Ben Stiller<\/a>, producer of the hit show Severance. Both shared thoughts that simplify the key to effective storytelling and persuasion. <\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Stiller put it this way: \u201cIf you want to tell a good story, you need to establish an emotional connection between the characters and the audience.\u201d Cue added, \u201cOne reason Severance is so popular is that the audience has an emotional investment in the story. It\u2019s personal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">This\u00a0may be the most critical lesson from the panels I attended: persuasion, whether in storytelling, marketing, or law, is about forging an emotional connection.<\/p>\n<p class=\"s3\">Make it personal.<\/p>\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\" \/>\n<p><em><strong>Stephen Embry is a lawyer, speaker, blogger and writer. He publishes\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.techlawcrossroads.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">TechLaw Crossroads<\/a>, a blog devoted to the examination of the tension between technology, the law, and the practice of law<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Photo Illustration by Thomas Fuller\/SOPA Images\/LightRocket via Getty Images) SXSW is not only about technology but it\u2019s also about filmmaking, storytelling, and marketing. Multiple panel discussions explore how to craft compelling narratives and connect with an audience. One panel I attended focused on techniques from live theater that can create deeper audience engagement. 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