{"id":124180,"date":"2025-06-25T13:32:21","date_gmt":"2025-06-25T21:32:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/06\/25\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/"},"modified":"2025-06-25T13:32:21","modified_gmt":"2025-06-25T21:32:21","slug":"sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/06\/25\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/","title":{"rendered":"Sullivan &amp; Cromwell Co-Chair Pays A Visit To Second Circuit To Affirm His Loyalty To Trump"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sullivan &amp; Cromwell co-chair Bob Giuffra is <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/the-curious-case-of-sullivan-cromwells-relationship-with-donald-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">working his way up<\/a> the MAGA hierarchy. Yesterday, he was<a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/trump-tests-presidential-immunity-carroll-defamation-verdict-payout-2025-6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> spotted by Business Insider\u2019s Jacob Shamsian<\/a> at the Second Circuit argument in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case where the president\u2019s lawyers were arguing that presidential immunity should invalidate the $83.3 million jury verdict against their client for defamation. At the argument, Giuffra was seen with <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/tag\/boris-epshteyn\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Boris Epshteyn<\/a>, the controversial personal attorney of Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Now Giuffra *does* represent the president \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/01\/sullivan-cromwell-joins-trump-defense-as-age-of-obsequiousness-begins\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sullivan &amp; Cromwell is handling<\/a> Trump\u2019s appeal of his hush money conviction. Though that is\u2026 not this case.<\/p>\n<p>This left a lot of observers wondering: what the hell was Giuffra doing there?<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Not a good look for a co-chair of the preeminent New York law firm Sullivan &amp; Cromwell LLP to be hanging with the likes of Boris Epshteyn, let alone while cheering on the appeal of their adjudicated-digital-rapist client in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case.  <\/p>\n<p>In fact, a\u2026 <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/XKL2ZWoysQ\" rel=\"nofollow\">pic.twitter.com\/XKL2ZWoysQ<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 George Conway \ud83d\udc4a\ud83c\uddfa\ud83c\uddf8\ud83d\udd25 (@gtconway3d) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/gtconway3d\/status\/1937556217301192983?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">June 24, 2025<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-bluesky-social wp-block-embed-bluesky-social\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"bluesky-embed\" data-bluesky-uri=\"at:\/\/did:plc:bbnmvfy5qfmn7woxivob6sar\/app.bsky.feed.post\/3lsfnjzofxk2w\" data-bluesky-cid=\"bafyreibhcjxkpv3olz72gohh3kxribe67wjqtktqhcepw4accxy6hju5xm\">\n<p lang=\"en\">Giuffra had no good reason to be at the argument of the Carroll appeal, which has no substantial relationship to be criminal appeal he&#8217;s handling, \u2026 other than to further taint himself and his firm.<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:bbnmvfy5qfmn7woxivob6sar?ref_src=embed\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">davidrlurie (@davidrlurie.bsky.social)<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/did:plc:bbnmvfy5qfmn7woxivob6sar\/post\/3lsfnjzofxk2w?ref_src=embed\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">2025-06-25T03:16:46.124Z<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Giuffra\u2019s time is very valuable \u2014 down to the 6 minute interval \u2014 so he\u2019s getting *something* out of the appearance. Some useful networking perhaps? It\u2019s not that he needs to hear the argument, yes presidential immunity is also an issue in Giuffra\u2019s case, but the oral arguments are <a href=\"https:\/\/ww3.ca2.uscourts.gov\/decisions\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">available online<\/a>. If \u201ckeeping abreast of developments in presidential immunity jurisprudence\u201d was all Giuffra cared about, he could tune in online and save himself the travel time (on one of the hottest days of the year, no less).<\/p>\n<p>But I have to wonder just how this schmoozing is going down at S&amp;C. There was a lot of <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/01\/sullivan-cromwell-attorneys-are-not-happy-the-firm-decided-to-suck-up-to-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">internal turmoil<\/a> when Giuffra announced the representation. Representing an adjudicated sex pest, with a history of dictating a brash (and not very S&amp;C-like) litigation strategy (and then stiffing his lawyers to boot!) had a real way of draining morale. The everyone-deserves-a-criminal-defense argument wears pretty thin when Giuffra is showing up for funsies in a civil case where the <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2024\/01\/judge-takes-time-out-of-saturday-night-plans-to-call-trump-a-rapist-again\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">judge had to repeatedly clarify<\/a> that the trial \u201cconclusively establish[ed] that Mr. Trump did, forcibly and without her consent, penetrate Ms. Carroll\u2019s vagina with his fingers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Unsavory for a White Shoe firm doesn\u2019t even begin to cover it.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-80083 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/IMG_5243-1-scaled-e1623338814705-620x568.jpg?resize=174%2C160&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"174\" height=\"160\" title=\"\">Kathryn Rubino is a Senior Editor at Above the Law, host of <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1XC11QhFCWxWr4NQrk2sEA\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Jabot podcast<\/a>, and co-host of <a href=\"https:\/\/legaltalknetwork.com\/podcasts\/thinking-like-a-lawyer\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. AtL tipsters are the best, so please connect with her. Feel free to email <a href=\"mailto:kathryn@abovethelaw.com?subject=Your%20Column\" target='_blank\"' rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">her<\/a> with any tips, questions, or comments and follow her on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/%E2%80%9C\/\/twitter.com\/Kathryn1%22%E2%80%9D\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Kathryn1<\/a>\u00a0or Mastodon <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Kathryn1@mastodon.social.<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sullivan &amp; Cromwell Co-Chair Pays A Visit To Second Circuit To Affirm His Loyalty To Trump<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Above the Law<\/a>.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"post-single__featured-image post-single__featured-image--medium alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2020\/01\/Bob_Giuffra_524x735-300x421.jpg?resize=214%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" title=\"\"><figcaption class=\"post-single__featured-image-caption\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tBob Giuffra\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Sullivan &amp; Cromwell co-chair Bob Giuffra is <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/the-curious-case-of-sullivan-cromwells-relationship-with-donald-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">working his way up<\/a> the MAGA hierarchy. Yesterday, he was<a href=\"https:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/trump-tests-presidential-immunity-carroll-defamation-verdict-payout-2025-6\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> spotted by Business Insider\u2019s Jacob Shamsian<\/a> at the Second Circuit argument in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case where the president\u2019s lawyers were arguing that presidential immunity should invalidate the $83.3 million jury verdict against their client for defamation. At the argument, Giuffra was seen with <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/tag\/boris-epshteyn\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Boris Epshteyn<\/a>, the controversial personal attorney of Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Now Giuffra *does* represent the president \u2014 <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/01\/sullivan-cromwell-joins-trump-defense-as-age-of-obsequiousness-begins\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Sullivan &amp; Cromwell is handling<\/a> Trump\u2019s appeal of his hush money conviction. Though that is\u2026 not this case.<\/p>\n<p>This left a lot of observers wondering: what the hell was Giuffra doing there?<\/p>\n<p>Giuffra\u2019s time is very valuable \u2014 down to the 6 minute interval \u2014 so he\u2019s getting *something* out of the appearance. Some useful networking perhaps? It\u2019s not that he needs to hear the argument, yes presidential immunity is also an issue in Giuffra\u2019s case, but the oral arguments are <a href=\"https:\/\/ww3.ca2.uscourts.gov\/decisions\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">available online<\/a>. If \u201ckeeping abreast of developments in presidential immunity jurisprudence\u201d was all Giuffra cared about, he could tune in online and save himself the travel time (on one of the hottest days of the year, no less).<\/p>\n<p>But I have to wonder just how this schmoozing is going down at S&amp;C. There was a lot of <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/01\/sullivan-cromwell-attorneys-are-not-happy-the-firm-decided-to-suck-up-to-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">internal turmoil<\/a> when Giuffra announced the representation. Representing an adjudicated sex pest, with a history of dictating a brash (and not very S&amp;C-like) litigation strategy (and then stiffing his lawyers to boot!) had a real way of draining morale. The everyone-deserves-a-criminal-defense argument wears pretty thin when Giuffra is showing up for funsies in a civil case where the <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2024\/01\/judge-takes-time-out-of-saturday-night-plans-to-call-trump-a-rapist-again\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">judge had to repeatedly clarify<\/a> that the trial \u201cconclusively establish[ed] that Mr. Trump did, forcibly and without her consent, penetrate Ms. Carroll\u2019s vagina with his fingers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Unsavory for a White Shoe firm doesn\u2019t even begin to cover it.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-80083 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/IMG_5243-1-scaled-e1623338814705-620x568.jpg?resize=174%2C160&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"174\" height=\"160\" title=\"\">Kathryn Rubino is a Senior Editor at Above the Law, host of <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1XC11QhFCWxWr4NQrk2sEA\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">The Jabot podcast<\/a>, and co-host of <a href=\"https:\/\/legaltalknetwork.com\/podcasts\/thinking-like-a-lawyer\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. AtL tipsters are the best, so please connect with her. Feel free to email <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/cdn-cgi\/l\/email-protection#ff949e8b978d8691bf9e9d90899a8b979a939e88d19c9092c08c8a9d959a9c8bc2a6908a8ddacdcfbc90938a9291\" target=\"_blank&quot;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">her<\/a> with any tips, questions, or comments and follow her on Twitter <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/sullivan-cromwell-co-chair-pays-a-visit-to-second-circuit-to-affirm-his-loyalty-to-trump\/%E2%80%9C\/\/twitter.com\/Kathryn1%22%E2%80%9D\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Kathryn1<\/a>\u00a0or Mastodon <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@Kathryn1%22%22\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@[email\u00a0protected].<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sullivan &amp; Cromwell co-chair Bob Giuffra is working his way up the MAGA hierarchy. Yesterday, he was spotted by Business Insider\u2019s Jacob Shamsian at the Second Circuit argument in the E. 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