{"id":137100,"date":"2025-11-19T06:58:33","date_gmt":"2025-11-19T14:58:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/11\/19\/courts-latest-order-in-elon-musk-case-includes-pretty-glaring-hallucination\/"},"modified":"2025-11-19T06:58:33","modified_gmt":"2025-11-19T14:58:33","slug":"courts-latest-order-in-elon-musk-case-includes-pretty-glaring-hallucination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2025\/11\/19\/courts-latest-order-in-elon-musk-case-includes-pretty-glaring-hallucination\/","title":{"rendered":"Court\u2019s Latest Order In Elon Musk Case Includes Pretty Glaring Hallucination"},"content":{"rendered":"

Elon Musk gets himself involved in a lot of entertaining court fights. Sometimes he botches these fights so badly<\/a> you wonder if he really would fall for a visit from the wallet inspector. Other times he gets a helping hand from a friendly judge<\/a>. But it\u2019s not clear that he\u2019s ever gotten litigation help from an AI hallucination before. <\/p>\n

Though the latest twist in the procedural labyrinth of his tussle with PlainSite<\/a> developer Aaron Greenspan may have finally crossed that threshold. <\/p>\n

Is this an AI hallucination working its way into a court order? Maybe not. It could be the result of a human judge (or clerk) dropping the ball. So, perhaps, we should hope it\u2019s an AI hallucination, for the sake of the humans involved.<\/p>\n

The latest order<\/a> grants a motion to strike brought by Musk and his co-defendants under California\u2019s anti-SLAPP statute. Greenspan argued that the motion wasn\u2019t timely filed and the judge deemed that, pursuant to the statute, the court has discretion<\/a> to entertain the motion at any time and would do so here. Whether the court was right to exercise that discretion here is for the parties to battle out. <\/p>\n

For those of us scouring filings for questionable AI screw-ups though, we now zoom to a handwritten insert included with the order, justifying the decision to allow the motion even if<\/em> it technically missed a deadline based on Jones v. Goodman<\/em>, 57 Cal.App.5th 521<\/a>, where the court writes, that an amended motion should relate back to the initial motion \u201cas long as the initial motion was in \u2018substantial compliance\u2019 with the governing rule.\u201d<\/p>\n

Except that\u2019s not what Jones<\/em> actually says. The defendants in Jones<\/em> had themselves argued \u2014 and we quote \u2014 that \u201csubstantial compliance with the rule is all that is required; and the amended motion should be deemed to \u2018relate back\u2019 to the initial motion, just as an amended pleading might relate back to the filing of the original pleading.\u201d This would be an odd rule to adopt since it would dispose of any meaningful deadline throughout a litigation if every issue could be preserved by vomiting up a half-assed brief and then \u201camending\u201d it well after the deadline.<\/p>\n

Which is why the Jones<\/em> court went on to explicitly reject this argument. In the next paragraph, the Jones<\/em> court describes the defendants\u2019 arguments there as \u201cnot well taken,\u201d clarifying that \u201cA motion is not a complaint, or any other type of pleading\u2026. Defendants provide no authority for the proposition that the relation-back doctrine applies to anything other than pleadings.\u201d<\/p>\n

So then how did this case end up in a court order for the proposition that an amended motion<\/em> \u201cshould be deemed to \u2018relate back\u2019 to the initial motion \u2018as long as the initial motion was in \u2018substantial compliance\u2019 with the governing rule\u201d? And it probably goes without saying, but this quote isn\u2019t in Jones<\/em>. At least not in this form. <\/p>\n

Again, this could be a human flub, but this bears some of the key signs of a hallucinating bot. Consider this, from Greenspan\u2019s latest brief on the docket:<\/p>\n

\n

This is the opposite of what Jones <\/em>stands for. The paragraph and sentence quoted by the Court for the phrase \u201csubstantial compliance\u201d begins with the words \u201cDefendants contend\u2026\u201d indicating that the Jones<\/em> court was merely providing context before issuing its actual ruling on those arguments later in the opinion.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Which certainly tracks the actual text of Jones<\/em>. But mixing up the judge laying out one side\u2019s argument for an actual holding is exactly the sort of error AI makes. <\/p>\n

At an AI legal research briefing I attended a couple years ago, one of the product team leaders suggested \u201challucinations,\u201d as we commonly understood them, would be solved soon. The technology would soon stop making up cases from thin air, but AI still posed tremendous risk in misinterpreting the text itself. For instance, grabbing dicta and treating it as precedent \u2014 which might be the Supreme Court\u2019s new default setting<\/a>, but historically isn\u2019t how any of this is supposed to work. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s also why just feeding \u201call court cases\u201d into an AI system<\/a> isn\u2019t going to work.<\/p>\n

Here, a quote makes it into a judge\u2019s opinion that explicitly began its life as a straw argument, laying out one of the party\u2019s positions before dismissing it with withering contempt. \u201cDefendants\u2019 arguments are not well taken,\u201d is the sort of line in an opinion that makes most lawyers wish to simply curl into a ball and die. But this is exactly where AI remains an easy mark, capable of casually bumbling into a straw argument and elevating it to a citation-worthy conclusion. Adding in the quote that begins \u201cas long as the initial motion\u2026\u201d \u2014 which is nowhere to be found in the opinion \u2014 to double down on the initial error introduces another known AI flaw.<\/p>\n

Everyone knows about the made-up cases, but AI\u2019s most insidious mistakes will be in subtle mischaracterizations of real cases. The lowest bar of cite checking isn\u2019t going to catch that since it\u2019s a real case. Even a superficial glance at the text might not notice the error without panning out to consider the context of the original Jones<\/em> opinion.<\/p>\n

And then what happens if this isn\u2019t promptly caught? The next court sees this opinion and decides the law supports a new \u201crelate back\u201d process for mere motions. Then that opinion gets on the books and the next thing you know, we\u2019re all echoing a hallucination. Inaccuracies can compound themselves. Whether Greenspan ends up prevailing or not, hopefully Greenspan\u2019s motion to reconsider gets the record cleaned up and gives everyone a renewed sense of attention to detail. Even if this is a human error, we\u2019re going to need the record set straight.<\/p>\n

And if this is an AI-induced screw-up\u2026 I wonder if the court used Grok?<\/p>\n

\n

\"Headshot\"Joe Patrice<\/a>\u00a0is a senior editor at Above the Law and co-host of Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. Feel free to\u00a0email<\/a> any tips, questions, or comments. Follow him on\u00a0Twitter<\/a>\u00a0or Bluesky<\/a> if you\u2019re interested in law, politics, and a healthy dose of college sports news. Joe also serves as a Managing Director at RPN Executive Search<\/a>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

The post Court\u2019s Latest Order In Elon Musk Case Includes Pretty Glaring Hallucination<\/a> appeared first on Above the Law<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Elon Musk gets himself involved in a lot of entertaining court fights. Sometimes he botches these fights so badly<\/a> you wonder if he really would fall for a visit from the wallet inspector. Other times he gets a helping hand from a friendly judge<\/a>. But it\u2019s not clear that he\u2019s ever gotten litigation help from an AI hallucination before. <\/p>\n

Though the latest twist in the procedural labyrinth of his tussle with PlainSite<\/a> developer Aaron Greenspan may have finally crossed that threshold. <\/p>\n

Is this an AI hallucination working its way into a court order? Maybe not. It could be the result of a human judge (or clerk) dropping the ball. So, perhaps, we should hope it\u2019s an AI hallucination, for the sake of the humans involved.<\/p>\n

The latest order<\/a> grants a motion to strike brought by Musk and his co-defendants under California\u2019s anti-SLAPP statute. Greenspan argued that the motion wasn\u2019t timely filed and the judge deemed that, pursuant to the statute, the court has discretion<\/a> to entertain the motion at any time and would do so here. Whether the court was right to exercise that discretion here is for the parties to battle out. <\/p>\n

For those of us scouring filings for questionable AI screw-ups though, we now zoom to a handwritten insert included with the order, justifying the decision to allow the motion even if<\/em> it technically missed a deadline based on Jones v. Goodman<\/em>, 57 Cal.App.5th 521<\/a>, where the court writes, that an amended motion should relate back to the initial motion \u201cas long as the initial motion was in \u2018substantial compliance\u2019 with the governing rule.\u201d<\/p>\n

Except that\u2019s not what Jones<\/em> actually says. The defendants in Jones<\/em> had themselves argued \u2014 and we quote \u2014 that \u201csubstantial compliance with the rule is all that is required; and the amended motion should be deemed to \u2018relate back\u2019 to the initial motion, just as an amended pleading might relate back to the filing of the original pleading.\u201d This would be an odd rule to adopt since it would dispose of any meaningful deadline throughout a litigation if every issue could be preserved by vomiting up a half-assed brief and then \u201camending\u201d it well after the deadline.<\/p>\n

Which is why the Jones<\/em> court went on to explicitly reject this argument. In the next paragraph, the Jones<\/em> court describes the defendants\u2019 arguments there as \u201cnot well taken,\u201d clarifying that \u201cA motion is not a complaint, or any other type of pleading\u2026. Defendants provide no authority for the proposition that the relation-back doctrine applies to anything other than pleadings.\u201d<\/p>\n

So then how did this case end up in a court order for the proposition that an amended motion<\/em> \u201cshould be deemed to \u2018relate back\u2019 to the initial motion \u2018as long as the initial motion was in \u2018substantial compliance\u2019 with the governing rule\u201d? And it probably goes without saying, but this quote isn\u2019t in Jones<\/em>. At least not in this form. <\/p>\n

Again, this could be a human flub, but this bears some of the key signs of a hallucinating bot. Consider this, from Greenspan\u2019s latest brief on the docket:<\/p>\n

\n

This is the opposite of what Jones <\/em>stands for. The paragraph and sentence quoted by the Court for the phrase \u201csubstantial compliance\u201d begins with the words \u201cDefendants contend\u2026\u201d indicating that the Jones<\/em> court was merely providing context before issuing its actual ruling on those arguments later in the opinion.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Which certainly tracks the actual text of Jones<\/em>. But mixing up the judge laying out one side\u2019s argument for an actual holding is exactly the sort of error AI makes. <\/p>\n

At an AI legal research briefing I attended a couple years ago, one of the product team leaders suggested \u201challucinations,\u201d as we commonly understood them, would be solved soon. The technology would soon stop making up cases from thin air, but AI still posed tremendous risk in misinterpreting the text itself. For instance, grabbing dicta and treating it as precedent \u2014 which might be the Supreme Court\u2019s new default setting<\/a>, but historically isn\u2019t how any of this is supposed to work. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s also why just feeding \u201call court cases\u201d into an AI system<\/a> isn\u2019t going to work.<\/p>\n

Here, a quote makes it into a judge\u2019s opinion that explicitly began its life as a straw argument, laying out one of the party\u2019s positions before dismissing it with withering contempt. \u201cDefendants\u2019 arguments are not well taken,\u201d is the sort of line in an opinion that makes most lawyers wish to simply curl into a ball and die. But this is exactly where AI remains an easy mark, capable of casually bumbling into a straw argument and elevating it to a citation-worthy conclusion. Adding in the quote that begins \u201cas long as the initial motion\u2026\u201d \u2014 which is nowhere to be found in the opinion \u2014 to double down on the initial error introduces another known AI flaw.<\/p>\n

Everyone knows about the made-up cases, but AI\u2019s most insidious mistakes will be in subtle mischaracterizations of real cases. The lowest bar of cite checking isn\u2019t going to catch that since it\u2019s a real case. Even a superficial glance at the text might not notice the error without panning out to consider the context of the original Jones<\/em> opinion.<\/p>\n

And then what happens if this isn\u2019t promptly caught? The next court sees this opinion and decides the law supports a new \u201crelate back\u201d process for mere motions. Then that opinion gets on the books and the next thing you know, we\u2019re all echoing a hallucination. Inaccuracies can compound themselves. Whether Greenspan ends up prevailing or not, hopefully Greenspan\u2019s motion to reconsider gets the record cleaned up and gives everyone a renewed sense of attention to detail. Even if this is a human error, we\u2019re going to need the record set straight.<\/p>\n

And if this is an AI-induced screw-up\u2026 I wonder if the court used Grok?<\/p>\n

\n

\"Headshot\"Joe Patrice<\/a>\u00a0is a senior editor at Above the Law and co-host of Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. Feel free to\u00a0email<\/a> any tips, questions, or comments. Follow him on\u00a0Twitter<\/a>\u00a0or Bluesky<\/a> if you\u2019re interested in law, politics, and a healthy dose of college sports news. Joe also serves as a Managing Director at RPN Executive Search<\/a>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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