{"id":157573,"date":"2026-07-20T15:43:36","date_gmt":"2026-07-20T23:43:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2026\/07\/20\/doj-wants-susman-godfrey-kicked-off-the-abas-case-because-doj-subpoenaed-susman-godfrey\/"},"modified":"2026-07-20T15:43:36","modified_gmt":"2026-07-20T23:43:36","slug":"doj-wants-susman-godfrey-kicked-off-the-abas-case-because-doj-subpoenaed-susman-godfrey","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2026\/07\/20\/doj-wants-susman-godfrey-kicked-off-the-abas-case-because-doj-subpoenaed-susman-godfrey\/","title":{"rendered":"DOJ Wants Susman Godfrey Kicked Off The ABA\u2019s Case Because DOJ Subpoenaed Susman Godfrey"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Justice Department <a href=\"https:\/\/lawandcrime.com\/high-profile\/disqualification-is-in-order-trump-doj-accuses-major-law-firm-of-violating-bright-line-rule-in-american-bar-association-case-asks-judge-to-act\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has decided<\/a> that the problem with <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/07\/the-aba-wants-the-white-houses-receipts-on-the-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the ABA\u2019s lawsuit<\/a> over the Biglaw executive orders is the lawyers bringing it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ABA <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/07\/the-aba-wants-the-white-houses-receipts-on-the-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sued the administration<\/a> over the Trump administration\u2019s campaign of executive orders \u2014 stripping disfavored firms of security clearances, federal building access, and government contracts \u2014 punishing firms for the clients they represented and the lawyers they employed. The theory isn\u2019t just that the orders were illegal as to the firms that got them, though <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/trump-is-0-4-defending-his-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">four of those firms went to court and beat them on that score<\/a>. It\u2019s that the whole point was the chilling effect on the profession as a whole \u2014 that nine firms <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/03\/doj-drops-defense-of-biglaw-executive-orders-leaving-capitulating-firms-holding-940-million-bag\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cut deals worth $940 million in pro bono payola<\/a> precisely because the threat worked, and that lawyers are now scared to take immigration pro bono work is further proof of a legal profession that no longer functions. Judge Amir Ali denied the government\u2019s motion to dismiss, discovery opened, and the ABA started asking for the White House\u2019s documents about the deals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On Friday the administration<a href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.dcd.281674\/gov.uscourts.dcd.281674.67.1.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> moved <\/a>to disqualify Susman Godfrey as counsel for the American Bar Association, invoking Rule 3.7 of the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is the textbook case where the rules of professional conduct prohibiting a lawyer from serving as both advocate and witness must apply. Susman cannot serve as both advocate for the ABA and a fact witness in the same matter under Rule 3.7 of the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct. That rule\u2014and even the ABA\u2019s own Model Rule 3.7\u2014contains a bright line rule prohibiting a lawyer from serving as both advocate and fact witness in the same matter with narrow exceptions, which do not apply here.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Susman, the government continues, \u201cis a central player\u2014and fact witness\u2014in this, and other litigation involving interactions between the Trump Administration and certain law firms. Disqualification is in order.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s the thing about Susman\u2019s status as a fact witness\u2026. it\u2019s kinda the government\u2019s fault. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On July 2, the department served Susman Godfrey with a third-party document subpoena demanding the firm\u2019s communications with Boris Epshteyn, and noticed co-managing partner Kalpana Srinivasan for a deposition. Fifteen days later, it filed the subpoenas on the docket. Two days after that, it told the court that Susman is too much of a witness to keep litigating the case. Subpoena opposing counsel, then move to disqualify opposing counsel for having been subpoenaed. Checks out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The government\u2019s other metric is that Susman shows up in the ABA\u2019s complaint \u201cno fewer than 50 times\u201d as part of the fact narrative rather than as counsel. Susman shows up in the complaint because <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/another-firm-targeted-by-trump-looking-to-amass-1-billion-war-chest-from-biglaw\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Trump signed an executive order targeting Susman<\/a> under <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/05\/doj-says-susman-godfrey-is-national-security-threat-for-giving-money-to-glad\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the theory that Susman was a national security threat for donating to GLAD Law<\/a>, and because Susman <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/susman-godfrey-hits-back-at-trump-administration-over-executive-order-targeting-the-firm\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sued over it<\/a>, and because Judge Loren AliKhan <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/granting-susman-godfrey-a-temporary-restraining-order-judge-calls-out-the-cowardly-biglaw-firms-inking-deals-with-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">called that order a shocking abuse of power<\/a> before <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/trump-is-0-4-defending-his-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">striking it down entirely<\/a>. Counting how often a targeted firm appears in a complaint about the targeting of firms is not evidence of a conflict so much as evidence the campaign happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s also worth pointing out that the Justice Department is citing \u201cthe ABA\u2019s own Model Rule 3.7\u201d as authority against the ABA, on behalf of an administration that has spent this term calling the ABA an illegitimate actor to be ignored in every other context. Pam Bondi <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/05\/doj-ditches-aba-judicial-vetting-because-being-qualified-is-too-woke\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cut the organization out of judicial vetting<\/a>. The FTC and DOJ barred staff from its events. The administration has been <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/05\/turns-out-the-abas-gatekeeping-role-actually-does-something\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">going after its law school accreditation role<\/a>, and the White House has publicly dismissed the group as <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/04\/aba-hands-trump-nominee-unqualified-reality-check\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">useless and partisan<\/a> when it rates a nominee unqualified. So\u2026 the ABA\u2019s professional judgment is worthless right up until it can be pointed at the ABA\u2019s lawyers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ABA\u2019s response is due July 27, and the firm that has beaten this administration in court once already will weigh in then.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-80083 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/IMG_5243-1-scaled-e1623338814705-620x568.jpg?resize=174%2C160&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"174\" height=\"160\" title=\"\"><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Kathryn Rubino is a Senior Editor at Above the Law, host of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1XC11QhFCWxWr4NQrk2sEA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Jabot podcast<\/a>, and co-host of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/legaltalknetwork.com\/podcasts\/thinking-like-a-lawyer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. AtL tipsters are the best, so please connect with her. Feel free to email\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:kathryn@abovethelaw.com?subject=Your%20Column\">her<\/a>\u00a0with any tips, questions, or comments and follow her on Twitter\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Kathryn1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">@Kathryn1<\/a>\u00a0or Bluesky\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/kathryn1.bsky.social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Kathryn1<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/07\/doj-wants-susman-godfrey-kicked-off-the-abas-case-because-doj-subpoenaed-susman-godfrey\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">DOJ Wants Susman Godfrey Kicked Off The ABA\u2019s Case Because DOJ Subpoenaed Susman Godfrey<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Above the Law<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Justice Department <a href=\"https:\/\/lawandcrime.com\/high-profile\/disqualification-is-in-order-trump-doj-accuses-major-law-firm-of-violating-bright-line-rule-in-american-bar-association-case-asks-judge-to-act\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">has decided<\/a> that the problem with <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/07\/the-aba-wants-the-white-houses-receipts-on-the-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the ABA\u2019s lawsuit<\/a> over the Biglaw executive orders is the lawyers bringing it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ABA <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/07\/the-aba-wants-the-white-houses-receipts-on-the-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sued the administration<\/a> over the Trump administration\u2019s campaign of executive orders \u2014 stripping disfavored firms of security clearances, federal building access, and government contracts \u2014 punishing firms for the clients they represented and the lawyers they employed. The theory isn\u2019t just that the orders were illegal as to the firms that got them, though <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/trump-is-0-4-defending-his-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">four of those firms went to court and beat them on that score<\/a>. It\u2019s that the whole point was the chilling effect on the profession as a whole \u2014 that nine firms <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/03\/doj-drops-defense-of-biglaw-executive-orders-leaving-capitulating-firms-holding-940-million-bag\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cut deals worth $940 million in pro bono payola<\/a> precisely because the threat worked, and that lawyers are now scared to take immigration pro bono work is further proof of a legal profession that no longer functions. Judge Amir Ali denied the government\u2019s motion to dismiss, discovery opened, and the ABA started asking for the White House\u2019s documents about the deals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On Friday the administration<a href=\"https:\/\/storage.courtlistener.com\/recap\/gov.uscourts.dcd.281674\/gov.uscourts.dcd.281674.67.1.pdf\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\"> moved <\/a>to disqualify Susman Godfrey as counsel for the American Bar Association, invoking Rule 3.7 of the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is the textbook case where the rules of professional conduct prohibiting a lawyer from serving as both advocate and witness must apply. Susman cannot serve as both advocate for the ABA and a fact witness in the same matter under Rule 3.7 of the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct. That rule\u2014and even the ABA\u2019s own Model Rule 3.7\u2014contains a bright line rule prohibiting a lawyer from serving as both advocate and fact witness in the same matter with narrow exceptions, which do not apply here.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Susman, the government continues, \u201cis a central player\u2014and fact witness\u2014in this, and other litigation involving interactions between the Trump Administration and certain law firms. Disqualification is in order.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s the thing about Susman\u2019s status as a fact witness\u2026. it\u2019s kinda the government\u2019s fault. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On July 2, the department served Susman Godfrey with a third-party document subpoena demanding the firm\u2019s communications with Boris Epshteyn, and noticed co-managing partner Kalpana Srinivasan for a deposition. Fifteen days later, it filed the subpoenas on the docket. Two days after that, it told the court that Susman is too much of a witness to keep litigating the case. Subpoena opposing counsel, then move to disqualify opposing counsel for having been subpoenaed. Checks out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The government\u2019s other metric is that Susman shows up in the ABA\u2019s complaint \u201cno fewer than 50 times\u201d as part of the fact narrative rather than as counsel. Susman shows up in the complaint because <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/another-firm-targeted-by-trump-looking-to-amass-1-billion-war-chest-from-biglaw\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">Trump signed an executive order targeting Susman<\/a> under <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/05\/doj-says-susman-godfrey-is-national-security-threat-for-giving-money-to-glad\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">the theory that Susman was a national security threat for donating to GLAD Law<\/a>, and because Susman <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/susman-godfrey-hits-back-at-trump-administration-over-executive-order-targeting-the-firm\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">sued over it<\/a>, and because Judge Loren AliKhan <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/04\/granting-susman-godfrey-a-temporary-restraining-order-judge-calls-out-the-cowardly-biglaw-firms-inking-deals-with-trump\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">called that order a shocking abuse of power<\/a> before <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/06\/trump-is-0-4-defending-his-biglaw-executive-orders\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">striking it down entirely<\/a>. Counting how often a targeted firm appears in a complaint about the targeting of firms is not evidence of a conflict so much as evidence the campaign happened.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s also worth pointing out that the Justice Department is citing \u201cthe ABA\u2019s own Model Rule 3.7\u201d as authority against the ABA, on behalf of an administration that has spent this term calling the ABA an illegitimate actor to be ignored in every other context. Pam Bondi <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2025\/05\/doj-ditches-aba-judicial-vetting-because-being-qualified-is-too-woke\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">cut the organization out of judicial vetting<\/a>. The FTC and DOJ barred staff from its events. The administration has been <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/05\/turns-out-the-abas-gatekeeping-role-actually-does-something\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">going after its law school accreditation role<\/a>, and the White House has publicly dismissed the group as <a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/2026\/04\/aba-hands-trump-nominee-unqualified-reality-check\/\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">useless and partisan<\/a> when it rates a nominee unqualified. So\u2026 the ABA\u2019s professional judgment is worthless right up until it can be pointed at the ABA\u2019s lawyers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The ABA\u2019s response is due July 27, and the firm that has beaten this administration in court once already will weigh in then.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-80083 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/abovethelaw.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2021\/06\/IMG_5243-1-scaled-e1623338814705-620x568.jpg?resize=174%2C160&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"174\" height=\"160\" title=\"\"><strong><em>Kathryn Rubino is a Senior Editor at Above the Law, host of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1XC11QhFCWxWr4NQrk2sEA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">The Jabot podcast<\/a>, and co-host of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/legaltalknetwork.com\/podcasts\/thinking-like-a-lawyer\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">Thinking Like A Lawyer<\/a>. AtL tipsters are the best, so please connect with her. Feel free to email\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/abovethelaw.com\/cdn-cgi\/l\/email-protection#2f444e5b475d56416f4e4d40594a5b474a434e58014c4042105c5a4d454a4c5b1276405a5d0a1d1f6c40435a4241\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">her<\/a>\u00a0with any tips, questions, or comments and follow her on Twitter\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Kathryn1\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">@Kathryn1<\/a>\u00a0or Bluesky\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bsky.app\/profile\/kathryn1.bsky.social\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" target=\"_blank\">@Kathryn1<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Justice Department has decided that the problem with the ABA\u2019s lawsuit over the Biglaw executive orders is the lawyers bringing it. The ABA sued the administration over the Trump administration\u2019s campaign of executive orders \u2014 stripping disfavored firms of security clearances, federal building access, and government contracts \u2014 punishing firms for the clients they [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":157574,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[16],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-157573","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-above_the_law"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/xira.com\/p\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/IMG_5243-1-scaled-e1623338814705-620x568-xyCyM5.jpg?fit=620%2C568&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/157573","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=157573"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/157573\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/157574"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=157573"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=157573"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=157573"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}