{"id":165436,"date":"2026-10-21T11:23:22","date_gmt":"2026-10-21T19:23:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2026\/10\/21\/who-will-control-the-ai-relationship-in-house-or-outside-counsel\/"},"modified":"2026-10-21T11:23:22","modified_gmt":"2026-10-21T19:23:22","slug":"who-will-control-the-ai-relationship-in-house-or-outside-counsel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/xira.com\/p\/2026\/10\/21\/who-will-control-the-ai-relationship-in-house-or-outside-counsel\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Will Control The AI Relationship: In-House Or Outside Counsel?"},"content":{"rendered":"
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At the media briefing today at the NetDocuments Inspire<\/a> conference, the CEO, Josh Baxter<\/a>, made a bold statement: \u201cThere is the opportunity for the first time to change the practice of law.\u201d I think he may be right. But opportunity is just that. Whether anyone capitalizes is a different matter entirely.\u00a0<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why I thought one of the more compelling presentations here at Inspire would be the one entitled\u00a0\u201cClosing the Client-Counsel Divide.\u201d It was given by Michael Owen Hill<\/a>, NetDocuments\u2019 director of product marketing, and Kathleen Hogan<\/a>, NetDocuments\u2019 legal innovation partner.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The session was all about some critical questions: What will the future relationship between in-house counsel and outside lawyers look like? Who will reap the benefits of the AI revolution? As between in-house and outside counsel, who will end up controlling the work? \u00a0Who will end up being the dominant player?<\/p>\n

The Missing Audience<\/strong><\/p>\n

These are important question since the answers will govern the legal marketplace in the years to come. It will decide who the customers are and the fate of many law firms. And they are questions few seem to be focusing on right now.\u00a0Why do I say that?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Eight people attended Hill and Hogan\u2019s presentation. Eight. And of the eight, one was a media rep (me) and one was a NetDocuments PR person. That\u2019s telling since the future of so many here hinges on who will control and do future legal work.<\/p>\n

It seems folks are more fascinated by the technology than by what the technology might do to our business.<\/p>\n

The Great Divide<\/strong><\/p>\n

Right now, in-house and outside counsel are like two ships passing in the night. Here\u2019s some proof Hill and Hogan offered, drawn from various surveys:<\/p>\n

\u2022 52% of in-house counsel are using AI. But 59% have yet to notice any savings from their law firms\u2019 AI use.<\/p>\n

\u2022 64% of in-house expect to rely less and less on outside counsel. Yet only 7% have seen lower matter costs from their outside lawyers. Talk about firms whistling past the graveyard.<\/p>\n

\u2022 61% of in-house plan to push for different delivery and pricing models. Only 6% have been offered something different by their outside firms. Apparently, law firms have heard all the talk about changing how legal services are delivered and decided to keep doing what they\u2019ve always done.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know of any other business that tolerates such a gap between what the customer wants and what the providers are providing. Maybe the providers ought to be following the Savannah Bananas\u2019 playbook, which its owner, Jesse Cole, recently laid ou<\/a>t at another legal tech conference. Fans First.<\/p>\n

Before we put all the blame on outside counsel, though, let\u2019s look at the other side of the table:<\/p>\n

\u2022 68% of in-house don\u2019t even know if their firms are using AI.<\/p>\n

\u2022 80% (80!) don\u2019t require or even encourage their firms to use AI. All the while wondering where the AI savings are. Duh.<\/p>\n

\u2022 And neither side does a very good job of determining ROI.<\/p>\n

Someone should tell these people: Hey, you\u2019re the customer. You\u2019re paying the bills. You have some leverage here.<\/p>\n

Calling this a divide is a little generous. It\u2019s more like the Grand Canyon.<\/p>\n

Two Paths In The Woods<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hill and Hogan did a good job outlining two potential future paths. One based on convergence and one on divergence.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Under the convergence model, firms would start disclosing AI use. They would share matter workspaces and joint metrics. (What, you mean law firm transparency? Right.) This model assumes, at the end of the day, a move to outcome-based fees and the sharing of AI savings: firms deliver more value, and clients reap the benefits.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Under the divergence model, however, the picture is completely different, say Hill and Hogan. AI usage remains \u201cmurky,\u201d and the savings from it remain unclear. Clients begin to build and use in-house AI capabilities to do more work while firms keep trying to defend their hours. And it\u2019s the end result that is most important: clients move more work in-house, and outside law firm fees are reduced and may even go into free fall.<\/p>\n

Which Version Sounds Better?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Obviously, the convergence model is the best for both sides. But never underestimate the power of lawyers to ignore what\u2019s good for them long term. To resist change.<\/p>\n

Convergence would mean a lot more sacrifice on the law firms\u2019 side. It means revising the billable hour culture. It means figuring out a new way of doing work. It means transparency and actually talking to clients about some sensitive matters. Like how much time should a task take? What is the value we are bringing? And what level of law firm profitability is reasonable and makes sense for both sides?<\/p>\n

On the in-house side, it means some sacrifice too. It means recognizing that trying to squeeze every possible dollar out of law firms\u2019 bills is not a long-term solution. It means defining and recognizing what value a law firm brings. And rewarding that. It means more transparency on their side too. Hard questions for in-house departments as well.<\/p>\n

So Which One Will It Be?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve given up trying to predict the future of AI and its impact. Every time I do, I get it mostly wrong. But I do know lawyers. I am one. I know how we think. We are born skeptics. We treasure our independence. It doesn\u2019t matter which side of the table we sit on. These traits are ingrained in just about every lawyer I know.<\/p>\n

So if I were to bet on how likely it would be for either side to change, I wouldn\u2019t bet the house. I might not even bet the price of a lottery ticket. Lawyers in law firms think what they do and how they do it is nobody\u2019s business, least of all the clients. Their hubris is unmatched.\u00a0<\/p>\n

In-house, on the other hand, has shown a remarkable proclivity not to make waves. To not make demands on how outside counsel work. And to keep approving annual rate increases with nothing more than a little grumbling. That doesn\u2019t augur well for either model.<\/p>\n

So it will be the status quo. Until the day the CFO comes calling on in-house legal and says there\u2019s a new sheriff in town. You\u2019re going to use AI, and you\u2019re going to use it to cut legal spend. Both for your department and for outside counsel.\u00a0<\/p>\n

When (not if) that day comes, in-house legal is going to drop everything and do all the things the divergence model envisions. Why? Because building the convergence model takes time. Time they haven\u2019t invested. And now they are out of time. Not a pretty picture.<\/p>\n

So What?<\/strong><\/p>\n

So, other than lawyers in firms and in-house counsel, few of whom attend conferences like this (well, maybe the six in the room with Hill and Hogan do), who cares?<\/p>\n

Everyone here should care. Because what model wins will govern where and how legal tech goes. Who its customers are. What tools it needs to come up with. Who answers to who. Who controls purchasing. If divergence wins out, many of the dollars being spent on law firm tech could become a relic of the past. And yet only six people at the whole conference seem to care. That tells you something in and of itself.<\/p>\n

So in-house and outside lawyers and legal professionals, just keep ignoring the elephant in the room and see where it gets you. You might wish you had come to Hill and Hogan\u2019s talk.<\/p>\n

Full disclosure: NetDocuments paid my way to Inspire. And my old firm was one of its original users, so I\u2019ve known the product a long time. But nobody tells me what to write. Just ask any vendor who\u2019s paid for my travel.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Stephen Embry is a lawyer, speaker, blogger, and writer. He publishes\u00a0TechLaw Crossroads<\/a>, a blog devoted to the examination of the tension between technology, the law, and the practice of law.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

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The post Who Will Control The AI Relationship: In-House Or Outside Counsel?<\/a> appeared first on Above the Law<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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At the media briefing today at the NetDocuments Inspire<\/a> conference, the CEO, Josh Baxter<\/a>, made a bold statement: \u201cThere is the opportunity for the first time to change the practice of law.\u201d I think he may be right. But opportunity is just that. Whether anyone capitalizes is a different matter entirely.\u00a0<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why I thought one of the more compelling presentations here at Inspire would be the one entitled\u00a0\u201cClosing the Client-Counsel Divide.\u201d It was given by Michael Owen Hill<\/a>, NetDocuments\u2019 director of product marketing, and Kathleen Hogan<\/a>, NetDocuments\u2019 legal innovation partner.\u00a0<\/p>\n

The session was all about some critical questions: What will the future relationship between in-house counsel and outside lawyers look like? Who will reap the benefits of the AI revolution? As between in-house and outside counsel, who will end up controlling the work? \u00a0Who will end up being the dominant player?<\/p>\n

The Missing Audience<\/strong><\/p>\n

These are important question since the answers will govern the legal marketplace in the years to come. It will decide who the customers are and the fate of many law firms. And they are questions few seem to be focusing on right now.\u00a0Why do I say that?\u00a0<\/p>\n

Eight people attended Hill and Hogan\u2019s presentation. Eight. And of the eight, one was a media rep (me) and one was a NetDocuments PR person. That\u2019s telling since the future of so many here hinges on who will control and do future legal work.<\/p>\n

It seems folks are more fascinated by the technology than by what the technology might do to our business.<\/p>\n

The Great Divide<\/strong><\/p>\n

Right now, in-house and outside counsel are like two ships passing in the night. Here\u2019s some proof Hill and Hogan offered, drawn from various surveys:<\/p>\n

\u2022 52% of in-house counsel are using AI. But 59% have yet to notice any savings from their law firms\u2019 AI use.<\/p>\n

\u2022 64% of in-house expect to rely less and less on outside counsel. Yet only 7% have seen lower matter costs from their outside lawyers. Talk about firms whistling past the graveyard.<\/p>\n

\u2022 61% of in-house plan to push for different delivery and pricing models. Only 6% have been offered something different by their outside firms. Apparently, law firms have heard all the talk about changing how legal services are delivered and decided to keep doing what they\u2019ve always done.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know of any other business that tolerates such a gap between what the customer wants and what the providers are providing. Maybe the providers ought to be following the Savannah Bananas\u2019 playbook, which its owner, Jesse Cole, recently laid ou<\/a>t at another legal tech conference. Fans First.<\/p>\n

Before we put all the blame on outside counsel, though, let\u2019s look at the other side of the table:<\/p>\n

\u2022 68% of in-house don\u2019t even know if their firms are using AI.<\/p>\n

\u2022 80% (80!) don\u2019t require or even encourage their firms to use AI. All the while wondering where the AI savings are. Duh.<\/p>\n

\u2022 And neither side does a very good job of determining ROI.<\/p>\n

Someone should tell these people: Hey, you\u2019re the customer. You\u2019re paying the bills. You have some leverage here.<\/p>\n

Calling this a divide is a little generous. It\u2019s more like the Grand Canyon.<\/p>\n

Two Paths In The Woods<\/strong><\/p>\n

Hill and Hogan did a good job outlining two potential future paths. One based on convergence and one on divergence.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Under the convergence model, firms would start disclosing AI use. They would share matter workspaces and joint metrics. (What, you mean law firm transparency? Right.) This model assumes, at the end of the day, a move to outcome-based fees and the sharing of AI savings: firms deliver more value, and clients reap the benefits.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Under the divergence model, however, the picture is completely different, say Hill and Hogan. AI usage remains \u201cmurky,\u201d and the savings from it remain unclear. Clients begin to build and use in-house AI capabilities to do more work while firms keep trying to defend their hours. And it\u2019s the end result that is most important: clients move more work in-house, and outside law firm fees are reduced and may even go into free fall.<\/p>\n

Which Version Sounds Better?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Obviously, the convergence model is the best for both sides. But never underestimate the power of lawyers to ignore what\u2019s good for them long term. To resist change.<\/p>\n

Convergence would mean a lot more sacrifice on the law firms\u2019 side. It means revising the billable hour culture. It means figuring out a new way of doing work. It means transparency and actually talking to clients about some sensitive matters. Like how much time should a task take? What is the value we are bringing? And what level of law firm profitability is reasonable and makes sense for both sides?<\/p>\n

On the in-house side, it means some sacrifice too. It means recognizing that trying to squeeze every possible dollar out of law firms\u2019 bills is not a long-term solution. It means defining and recognizing what value a law firm brings. And rewarding that. It means more transparency on their side too. Hard questions for in-house departments as well.<\/p>\n

So Which One Will It Be?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve given up trying to predict the future of AI and its impact. Every time I do, I get it mostly wrong. But I do know lawyers. I am one. I know how we think. We are born skeptics. We treasure our independence. It doesn\u2019t matter which side of the table we sit on. These traits are ingrained in just about every lawyer I know.<\/p>\n

So if I were to bet on how likely it would be for either side to change, I wouldn\u2019t bet the house. I might not even bet the price of a lottery ticket. Lawyers in law firms think what they do and how they do it is nobody\u2019s business, least of all the clients. Their hubris is unmatched.\u00a0<\/p>\n

In-house, on the other hand, has shown a remarkable proclivity not to make waves. To not make demands on how outside counsel work. And to keep approving annual rate increases with nothing more than a little grumbling. That doesn\u2019t augur well for either model.<\/p>\n

So it will be the status quo. Until the day the CFO comes calling on in-house legal and says there\u2019s a new sheriff in town. You\u2019re going to use AI, and you\u2019re going to use it to cut legal spend. Both for your department and for outside counsel.\u00a0<\/p>\n

When (not if) that day comes, in-house legal is going to drop everything and do all the things the divergence model envisions. Why? Because building the convergence model takes time. Time they haven\u2019t invested. And now they are out of time. Not a pretty picture.<\/p>\n

So What?<\/strong><\/p>\n

So, other than lawyers in firms and in-house counsel, few of whom attend conferences like this (well, maybe the six in the room with Hill and Hogan do), who cares?<\/p>\n

Everyone here should care. Because what model wins will govern where and how legal tech goes. Who its customers are. What tools it needs to come up with. Who answers to who. Who controls purchasing. If divergence wins out, many of the dollars being spent on law firm tech could become a relic of the past. And yet only six people at the whole conference seem to care. That tells you something in and of itself.<\/p>\n

So in-house and outside lawyers and legal professionals, just keep ignoring the elephant in the room and see where it gets you. You might wish you had come to Hill and Hogan\u2019s talk.<\/p>\n

Full disclosure: NetDocuments paid my way to Inspire. And my old firm was one of its original users, so I\u2019ve known the product a long time. But nobody tells me what to write. Just ask any vendor who\u2019s paid for my travel.<\/em><\/p>\n

\n

Stephen Embry is a lawyer, speaker, blogger, and writer. He publishes\u00a0TechLaw Crossroads<\/a>, a blog devoted to the examination of the tension between technology, the law, and the practice of law.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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